How Vincent Lima Built His Fanbase, Faced Imposter Syndrome, and Reimagined Orpheus | Fuegostine's Music Club

In this episode, Matt sits down with rising indie folk artist Vincent Lima for a raw and thoughtful conversation about songwriting, mythology, mental health, touring, and the unexpected emotional weight of going full time as a musician.

Vincent breaks down the creative world behind his upcoming Versions of Uncertainty EP — a concept project inspired by Orpheus and Eurydice, memory, grief, and the complicated ways we process loss. He shares how the song “Orpheus”unexpectedly became a fan favorite, and how he used mythology as a vehicle to explore deeply personal themes.

We discuss how his fanbase grew authentically online, what it felt like to quit his job to pursue music, how he stays grounded on the road, and why opening for artists like Jonah Kagen, Darren Kiely, and Hozier-adjacent acts helped him develop his identity as a performer.

This is one of the most thoughtful and emotionally resonant conversations on the podcast — perfect for fans of Hozier, Noah Kahan, Dermot Kennedy, and storytelling-focused indie folk.

In This Episode:
• How the Orpheus EP was born from grief and classical mythology
• The moment Vincent realized he could pursue music full-time
• The pressure of being vulnerable online
• Why imposter syndrome affects artists at all levels
• Touring life: openers vs. headliners
• How Vincent’s fans helped shape his artistic identity
• What’s next for Versions of Uncertainty

A must-listen for anyone who loves narrative songwriting, emotional indie folk, and the human side of being an artist today.

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Transcript

Matt (00:00)
The Following is a conversation with Vincent Lima, who is an indie folk singer-songwriter who I had the pleasure of talking to. We talk about what it means to be an independent artist, finishing an album, as well as a little bit of mythology. Vincent is wrapping up an East Coast tour at the moment and released an album earlier this summer entitled Visions of Uncertainty. I hope you enjoyed the conversation I had with Vincent Lima.

Matt (00:21)
Yeah, so we are excited to have Vincent Lima, Wesleyan Hockey Legend, owner, CEO, CFO of Vincent Lima Music on, man, appreciate you being here.

Vincent Lima (00:32)
Yeah, it's amazing to be here. Yeah, this is, it's always fun to podcast. I don't get to do it often.

Matt (00:38)
Yeah, so for anybody who maybe hasn't heard your music before or is unsure of the kind of music you make, maybe just kind of walk us through how you would kind of describe the music that you make.

Vincent Lima (00:49)
Yeah, this is a good question. I haven't had a lot of success describing the genre that I'm in, which is usually a good place to start. I would say it's folk tangent style of music. I think if you like Hozier, if you like Noah Khan, if you like Dermot Kennedy, I fall into that sort of balladeer, emotionally lyric driven music. I write very kind of emotional, very deep cutting thematic type songs.

So I would say if you're a fan of that genre, my music falls somewhere in there.

Matt (01:27)
Yeah, I think I would probably agree with that assessment for sure. You have a new EP out, Versions of Uncertainty. I think that's name of it. Follows along the Greek mythology of Orpheus and Eurydice. Just kind of curious, did you always plan to make an EP kind of loosely based about that or just kind of happened?

Vincent Lima (01:48)
No, it just it just happened.

I was a very, very avid Greek myth reader when I was very young. It was I loved Percy Jackson, but even before then I had a book of Greek myths when I was probably six or seven. And I just was very enamored by all the lore and the world and the characters, as I think a lot of a lot of kids growing up and people well, and so, know, their 20s and 30s in adulthood are. And yeah, the story is a little bit complex, but I kind of wrote the first

half of the song Orpheus before it was called Orpheus and the chorus

was sort of like turning around and looking at something that kind of disappears and exists between somewhere between life and death and being a memory and being the last real thing you have and at some point it kind of clicked in my mind that it was a lot like the myth of Orpheus and then I kind of brought that into the into the song and it opened up this entire world where I was intentionally kind of writing from that scope which is cool.

Matt (02:51)
Yeah, I think I can't say that I've honestly listened to a ton of music where, know, it loosely follows that. And I think that's really cool and does give a lot of, I don't want say emotion to it, but it gives you like a lot of, you know, places to start from and really kind of build from. I think that's, that was really cool and listening to it.

Vincent Lima (03:09)
Yeah, well, thank you. Yeah, I think it kind of like it created this second layer of narrative that I think it gave me a way to access something a little bit deeper. And it also gave me a little bit of comfort, just kind of drawing inspiration from this very famous allegory for grief and kind of putting my own experience with grief into it. Yeah, it deepened the song for sure.

Matt (03:26)
Yeah.

Yeah, 100%. So kind of growing up, what was the music scene like in your household or what did your parents listen to?

Vincent Lima (03:40)
I can barely even answer this question because my parents didn't really listen to music at all. My dad loved classical music. There was always sort of like just some sort of

classical or maybe jazz music that you know, it was just like this comfortable background, but I kind of had to find my own musical taste and I did so through friends and neighbors and weirdly enough my older sister got very into pop punk when she was probably 9 or 10 or 11 and then kind of passed that down to me and the two of us shared a little first generation iPod that we would make playlists together and

She was kind of my foray into music really.

Matt (04:25)
Yeah, the I mean, assuming your sister is in the millennial spectrum, it would 100 % make sense that she's into the pop punk life, as I think all of us kind of hit at one point or another. So yeah, that makes it makes a ton of sense. So I don't think a lot of people probably know, but you've recently kind of started doing this full time for the longest time. was a little part time thing for you. So talk about the transition kind of from doing it.

Vincent Lima (04:29)
Yeah.

Yep. Yeah, yeah.

I hit it hard.

Matt (04:53)
part -time working, know, a part -time job on top of it now to kind of doing it full -time and what that looks like mentally and emotionally for you.

Vincent Lima (05:01)
Yeah, I mean it's been my dream since I was probably five years old to do this

for whatever reason, I always wrote original music, even before I knew I had anything to write about. was kind of always writing songs and I would listen to, know, all my pop punk band, some 41 and three doors down and green day and all those very angsty bands when I was young and kind of imagined myself doing it. and I didn't start putting out music until, 2018 and I didn't really put it out like to launch a career. kind of put it out for very sort of.

personal reasons and it kind of steadily grew for the better part of five years. I was working, you know, a desk job and it was really after I put Orpheus out that I kind of saw the future and I started connecting with a lot of people and I started realizing that it could be important to people that weren't me in a really cool way that I started accessing just like this really human thing with complete strangers on the internet and then I started playing little one -off shows and

a couple people would show up that I didn't know and then it became my everything. was just sort of like, have to make this work however I can because it's the only identity I've ever really had for myself was this. And it took a very, very long time. But yeah, the transition has been beautiful. It's hard for sure to like go from not doing this to done touring a lot. But at the same time, it's just I'm so grateful I even have the opportunity to play. a lot of it was because I've

I've made a lot of very close friends that invited me on tours. I kind of got a taste for it. I didn't know if I even could do it, you know, and then I sort of did it. I loved it. I met so many people. Like you hang at the merch booth after shows and you just sort of hear all these stories and you get this very broad spectrum of humanity that you don't get before. And yeah, it's been, you know, sort of the joy of a lifetime to even do this for the first five months or six months.

Matt (07:01)
Yeah, I mean, I know kind of for me when I transitioned to full time, mean, obviously in a much different spectrum, like structuring my life around, you know, not having a day to day eight, 10 and whatever our job was a little bit of a struggle and really only recently.

kind of figured that out to where it wasn't like crushing my soul every day that I wasn't feeling productive. And is that something you've had to navigate or you do kind of transition pretty smoothly into?

Vincent Lima (07:25)
Yeah

I mean I was working like pretty crazy hours before this so I mean I'm working I guess it's different because

now my life is like touring and then not touring and I knew the only time I could do this full time was sort of like when I knew I could tour for as long as possible to avoid that sort of just like what am I doing now kind of thing because I write alone, I produce with one person and so the operation is so limited in scope in terms of people and scheduling it's it would be very easy for me not to have a lot to do because I'm so sort of like solitary with how it all

works. So touring has been the answer to that. And then the in -between times now, it's things are so busy and there's so much to do and so much to plan and so I'm trying to stay six months ahead of myself, you know, in plans and schemes and projects and all that that. But it took probably, you know, three months of kind of like, OK, I'm my own boss now. You you open up your own little company kind of like, you know, you have to honor yourself as your only employee.

Matt (08:38)
Yeah, I think for at least for me, that was definitely the hardest part is like, I'm the only person working on this. You know, I could do it whenever I want. But if I wanted to like, be as successful as I think it could be, it's like, you know, putting the time and kind of really avoiding the distractions that can come with it. So kind of with all that encompasses like being an artist nowadays, right? Like you're not only writing music, touring.

social media is like really the bigger part of it it feels like. How do you kind of handle all that? Is the social media part something you enjoy doing or is it just kind of you know the necessary evil to an end kind of thing?

Vincent Lima (09:22)
I honestly love it. I love parts of it. I would say I kind of realized in 2022, I kind of as everybody eventually realized that TikTok was sort of the only way to get control of any audience. First of all, to find an audience and then to sort of control how you message to that audience and how you connect with people, which was a really cool thing. And I started posting and, you know, nothing was really doing. then finally, you know, one day, like,

a TikTok got a thousand views and you know I got 300 new streams on a song from it and I realized I could connect really directly with people. The part I really love that I think wouldn't be surprising if anybody listens to this that knows me is Instagram is kind of my place that I spew nonsensical thoughts. It's not like a business strategy, it's just sort of like I have an audience now to just like say some stupid thing that comes into my mind and

and then get a response to it and talk to people about it. So I really enjoy the community building aspect of it because this operation is only as strong as the people that are consuming it and that are supporting it and that believe in it in the way that I do. And yeah, I like to say I finally found an audience of people that are listening for the same reason that I'm putting out music, which...

I don't know. It's kind of like everybody's dream and I couldn't have done it without social media. So yeah, like I don't love that. I have to try to go viral every time for a song, but I've found a really beautiful base of people that have kind of stuck around for the last year that make me like if a song doesn't go viral, I still feel very a lot of gratitude and fulfillment that, you know, those people will still listen and will still enjoy. Yeah.

Matt (11:08)
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I get that. think kind of speaking to your Instagram, that was kind of one thing I had written down that I think it's super funny, like the level of unserious nature that comes across your Instagram versus the, you know, the very like heavy tones that your music does carry. think it's hilarious. And it makes you like, it makes you human, right? Like that's, that's my biggest thing is when I started this, like I never wanted to lose the

Vincent Lima (11:18)
you

Yeah

Matt (11:33)
like person aspect of it. I always felt that like these influencers were like became this completely unreachable thing that like they lose like a humanity level to it and never ever wanted to be that. So I think, you you make serious music, but you have a very unserious like part of it. I think that's amazing, honestly.

Vincent Lima (11:40)
Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, I mean...

Yeah, I think there's a place, you know, for that sort of celebrity. I can't even if I wanted to, it could never be that just it's just I don't take myself seriously enough, obviously. But it's also like my music only worked in the first place because it was like a part of the real experience that I've had with like very difficult feelings. And the flip side of that is just showing people that I am a real person and meeting people that shows it. I'll never be someone where you show up to a show and you look

at me and you know I'm like larger than life it's just sort of like a guy singing about feelings that everyone shares.

Matt (12:28)
Right?

Yeah, yeah, that for me was like the biggest part of this too is like I never wanted to, like you said, like feel larger in life. Like I'm just a dude from nowhere shares music like happened to get popular. I feel like it's a very lucky thing at times. And I try not to like overhype myself on the spot that I'm in. So yeah, I think just the longer you could stay like realistic or humble about whatever you're going through, it goes a long way.

Vincent Lima (12:54)
Yeah.

I feel like you like it did the same thing. Like you had this very human thing that was working. That was like the reasons why everybody else wanted to wanted to find music, but maybe couldn't in a certain way. And they didn't know how to find these things that they really needed. And you were very good at articulating. If you like something here, a lot of other things and you clearly have a great mind for it. But it's yeah, your your career started because of how human you were. Yeah. I mean, I found you long before you found me.

Matt (13:19)
Yeah, I appreciate that.

really? That part always kills me too. Not in a bad way, but I hear so many people that are like, yeah, we've followed you for a long time, we're sick. I don't know. It's just a weird concept to me at times.

Vincent Lima (13:37)
It's weird, right? It's a really weird thing. But it's funny because like...

I've gotten over that a little bit. A good example is, know, know, Jonah Kagan, who is now like one of my closest friends in the world. I was like a huge fan of his for probably the better part of two years. Like the Rhodes showed up on my Spotify wrapped like like a year before I knew him. And now we're like friends. And I toured with him and I sang the Rhodes with him every night on his tour. Like it was weird at first to be like, dude, I like I like love you, you know, like

Matt (14:00)
Right.

You

Vincent Lima (14:11)
And you don't know who I am, but now we're now we're just he's just a guy like I'm just a guy He's a guy. We're just friends now, you know,

Matt (14:15)
Yeah. Right. Yeah, I definitely find myself in that spot, too, where like, you know, this opportunity just talking to people whose music that I admire, feels like a very, I try to keep it like not very fandomy, you know, and yeah, so it's it's it's a fun time, though. So I do. I'm curious. I talked to somebody else about this, too, but kind of retrospectively looking at my

Vincent Lima (14:29)
Yeah.

Matt (14:40)
Branding or like kind of having everything named after myself in a way Is there like any extra pressure that you feel from having a solo project named, you know Not having like an actual project name, but right after you

Vincent Lima (14:52)
Yeah, it's a little bit,

It's a little bit too intimate, I would say, in a certain way. It's like scary to be just me and like my whole career now hinges on like this working, which is just me. Like there's not like a ton of veil. And I know a lot of artists struggle with that too. There are a lot of like, you know, pretty famous examples of artists that don't find the balance that's healthy for them. I just feel like the community that's built around this or that's building has been so genuine. I feel like I

I actually know a lot of people just from Instagram interactions and in -person interactions that it's not weird. Like nothing weird has happened. It doesn't feel like people are being weird. Like I think a lot of that is because this isn't like I'm not a celebrity. I never really will be a celebrity no matter how far this goes. I think Noah Khan's a good example too where it just feels very genuine what he's done. And I think the people that are now like really following along with him are so genuine.

that it protects him and allows him to have a little bit of space because people are protective over him, I think. I say that as a fan. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, this is the beginning of my career. I'm so, so unknown in so many ways that I'll probably have a very different answer to this question in a year, assuming anything progresses.

Matt (16:00)
Yeah.

Hmm.

So kind of, I guess even in the five, six months that you've been doing this solo, it given you, you know, obviously there's like a hope around touring and hope around like making new music and connecting with people. Is there like a spot where you feel like...

I don't want to say a moment that really made it feel like, I'm doing this. I guess kind of, is there anything key that's happened in these six months where you're like, you did the right thing and it feels good?

Vincent Lima (16:41)
Yeah, I would say headlining was always kind of, think it's probably every artist that loves playing live, which is not every artist, but every artist that does love to play live. think headlining shows is a very crazy experience, you know, shows where people show up to. And, you know, I started noticing on some of the support tours that have quite a few people coming up to me after saying, and I would ask to during the sets, like how many of you know me? And, know, after some people would be like, we knew who you were. We were so excited to see you.

And I said, I wonder if I could do my own shows in these, you know, 200 cap rooms. And so, yeah, we did. I opened up for Darren Kiley in November of last year at Mercury Lounge, which is a 250 cap in New York. And that was when I kicked off my kind of May little scattered headline run and we sold out Mercury Lounge. And I was kind of on that stage looking out, you know, it pitch black in the room because that's how I like it. And I was kind of like, this is real now.

me about six years to get to this point, but I'm in the same place that I was six months prior as an opener. And it's so different.

when you walk out on stage and the whole audience care, you give or take, you know, came to see you. It's a really weird thing, but I it took me a while to like feel deserving of it, honestly. And I think it's still so early that I know I don't know that I ever will. But there's a really human like exchange that happens at my shows, which has, you know, been another thing that's been difficult to grasp because the show is not it's not like a light show. It's a you know, there's a lot of heavy songs and.

Matt (18:18)
you

Vincent Lima (18:20)
But those are the moments when you talk to strangers after and you're like, my God, we've been through so many of the same things and you found me like online or you found me somewhere else. And now we get to have this like really cool thing. So again, we'll see. But the headline stuff has been crazy.

Matt (18:34)
Yeah, yeah, mean, first off, like, even congrats on that. That's like even I don't think people understand that, like even a 250 cap room, like that's that's really big even for, you just yeah, it's so many people like I've had like like 10 people recognize me at a festival. I'm like, let's, you know, pump the brakes a minute. And then you have like 250 people buy tickets to see you. That's huge. And.

Vincent Lima (18:39)
No, thank you.

So many people.

Yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's cool. And after like meeting them to and you know, at first, like I was I watched there and he would go because he's it's he's such a genuine guy. And he would go to the merch booth after and he would stand there and he would look everyone in the eye and he would make everyone feel seen and he'd take pictures. at first, I was so put off by the like, I was like, why would why does anyone want a picture with me? You know, like, like, I would always ask like, really, you want a picture with me? And then eventually, you just realize you just like exchanged a very deep thing. And it's cool.

to memorialize that,

Matt (19:29)
Yeah. You talked about kind of like the feeling of, of deserving and you know, I know that's something I struggle with, just on a day -to -day basis, let alone, you know, in the space that I'm in. is there something or, know, how do you do kind of work on that? What do you do to work on the feeling like, you know, normalizing the feeling like, I do belong here.

Vincent Lima (19:52)
Yeah, I'm still working on that. I don't know that I'll ever feel it. I don't know that anybody I don't know. I guess I'd have to talk to like a no icon type to be like, do you feel like you deserve this? You've reached crazy heights. Yeah, I think like the best thing that I found that works is trying to find the balance between like

Because like obviously you have to search for an audience and you always have to put stuff out looking beyond what's already in front of you.

And it's been important to me to try to address what's here now as much as I can to, you know, the people that are already following along and that are going to shows to look at those people and just say, I also can't believe this. I can't believe that you think this is what it is and that you're making it what it is. like practicing a lot of expression of gratitude makes me feel a little bit more grounded just to make sure that people know that I don't take any of it for granted and that even the chance that I have to make this a career is

What I've dreamt about since I was five, so I don't think I'll ever feel deserving of it Especially if it progresses even a step further than it is now it already has gone so crazy but It's again. I just feel like there's a community and the community is a lot of like -minded people and it does kind of just feel like we're all Experiencing it together, which is a strange thing, but it's very cool

Matt (21:17)
Yeah. Have you found that, you I know you've kind of toured with friends or people that you've kind of made friendships with, but have you found everybody to be, you know, receptive of that and, you know, kind of welcoming and advice giving? not entirely sure what that dynamic usually looks like, but...

Vincent Lima (21:34)
Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, I I've learned so much from from Darren and Jonah, especially I kind of was a student as well as a friend of theirs. And, you know, they I kind of it was it was cool to see what the inner workings of the touring stuff looked like as a professional looking at them and being like, OK, because I struggled for a while to take it seriously. I would just be like, this is just me singing songs. It's not heart surgery. I'm not doing anything crazy. And I would see them taking it seriously and how how that was reflected in the show.

And I think the craziest example is I opened for a band called Kaleo who truly were like a top five influence on me.

in my sort of like late teen, mid teen years and maybe late teen, I don't know, but I listened to them voraciously and I was found myself opening up for them and then sitting at a dinner table with them after the show. And I was like, yeah, I'm not going to let this go to waste. And I asked them questions and they were so gracious and giving me advice. And it was also really cool to see a lot of the similarities between like an artist headlining a 250 cap room and an artist headlining a five

5 ,000 cap amphitheater in the way that they approached everything professionally and there was a lot of gratitude and So I'm trying to learn a lot because I'm so new to this

Matt (22:57)
Yeah, I find, again, like in completely different spectrums, I find, you know, I try to do the same in the space I'm in. There's a lot of people that have been in the music industry a lot longer than me and, you know, kind of dealing with these types of things. And upfront, it was very, very intimidating for sure. The more I kind of get acquainted with it, the more, you know, attainable and, you know.

Vincent Lima (23:08)
Mm.

Matt (23:21)
able to work through it it feels so that's that's kind of a nice and everybody again for at least for my has been really gracious and kind and sometimes almost too much to like my my own mental detriment because i feel like it's like fake at times but it hasn't been

Vincent Lima (23:28)
Mm

Yeah, that's beautiful. mean, you I feel like you had your own like meteoric rise where by the time when I discovered you suddenly you were just like everywhere and it's probably hard to be like, I'm a tastemaker now like people are looking to me to like, tell them what they'll probably like. It's a really cool thing that you've been able to do.

Matt (23:42)
It

It's a very, very odd space. Yeah, it happened absurdly quickly. Like looking back on it, like it very, it happened over the span of like a year, which is not normal in hindsight. Yeah, yeah. So it's not normal by any stretch of the imagination. And I don't, didn't have any grasp of that prior, cause you know, prior to doing this.

Vincent Lima (23:58)
Yeah.

Wow. Yeah, that's basically overnight, you know? Yeah.

Matt (24:14)
my social media experience was, you know, posting Instagram photos of my weekend trip to like my 180 friends, you know? So, I have zero experience outside of any of this. So yeah, I was just like, this is sweet. Like posting videos from my house and then going, working at a warehouse for like, you know, 10 hours a day. It felt sweet. And then all of a sudden it's like half a million people follow you. You're like.

Vincent Lima (24:20)
Yeah. Same.

Right. Yeah.

Matt (24:39)
What the hell? Like everybody at the warehouse knows that you do this now and it's very odd. It's very, very odd, yeah. So yeah, it's been a wild ride for me as well, to say the least. So if you had to pick a song out of your catalog, maybe not the most popular one, but just one you're most proud of, which one would that be?

Vincent Lima (24:43)
They're waiting for you to quit.

Hmm, I don't know that I have one answer. would say the first song I ever put out was called August and that song occupies a very like distinct place in my mind because it's sort of like its own thing. It was very cathartic. It was something that represented like

a many years long difficult journey that I went on. And it was the first thing I ever put out. I think there's a song called The Man by the Coast, which was a 2021 song that I played in large part this year on tour that I always will love. I've always tried to write music that

doesn't represent like if it represents a point in time, it encompasses like all of my feelings about a lot of big things. And I find that that stands the test of time. And so I can look back at most of my songs and be like, this covers a lot of ground. I think the man by the coast covers some of the most ground. And it's a song that like

Introduce me to a certain narrative style of writing that I'm excited about because it kind of informed one song in particular that is going to be the last song in the album that I've recorded.

But I do love character driven narratives, know, so I would say those two in the in terms of the back catalog, but I'm so, so proud of the new stuff from Orpheus. I couldn't have possibly dreamt of being able to do what I've done with this. it's entirely because of, again, like the community of people that have stuck around and allowed me to tell this sort of like linear ish narrative.

Matt (26:40)
Yeah. What about maybe a song or even an artist that you think more people should listen to?

Vincent Lima (26:48)
Hmm, that's a good one. I would say one of my closest friends Matt Howie Has he opened up for me on on my tour and we played a bunch together and we lived together in LA for a year his voice is outstanding and I mean, I wish more people like I always want more people listen to Jonah Kagan. I always want more people to listen to Darren Kylie

see I could probably come up with a laundry list response to this because I do feel like there's a category that I'm kind of falling into now of people that are like probably deserve huge careers that are gonna gonna have them I love Lily Fitz she's like just kind of starting out as well she's put out I think four or five songs she's unbelievable I would say start there yeah

Matt (27:32)
Yeah, I always love, it's like one of my favorite questions to ask artists because it's such a, you know, it's one thing being like on my side where like I have a distinct taste and I always love kind of hearing what other artists have to say about that.

Vincent Lima (27:45)
I have a good another good one is this kid Harrison Bo. I don't know if you've heard of him. He he's probably got like 100 ,000 monthly listeners and he reached out to me a little bit ago and I've had a lot. It's cool because a lot of fans that come to shows will give me music recs. And he's one of the ones that a bunch of people in Denver were like, you got to listen to this kid Harrison and I listen. I was like, my God, this is unbelievable. And it's cool to also be able to talk to those people. Elliot Greer is another one. I don't know why he's not the biggest

Matt (27:50)
think it sounds familiar.

Yeah.

Vincent Lima (28:15)
artist in the entire world. I saw him live in LA and I don't think I've ever been so absolutely starstruck and blown away by somebody's talent. I would say everyone should listen to him immediately.

Matt (28:31)
Sweet man. I Yeah, I don't know if I know I'll agree but I'll have to definitely take a listen so kind of in terms of in terms of I always like to ask her as to is in terms of therapy or Yeah, I guess really just in that sense of you do you One do you do therapy and then two is do you you know, know you're new into this. Do think there's enough?

like resources out there for artists or people in the industry as a whole to kind of you know be able to take care of that side of things.

Vincent Lima (29:01)
Yeah, I am in therapy. It was sort of a thing that got to...

bad. And I kind of was like, all right, this is long overdue. I was one of those stories that I'm sure is very typical where I have a lot of very, very close people in my life that have really deep issues. And I kind of resisted the idea that I needed, you know, therapy, because I was always used to trying to be a resource for other people, you know, that I cared about in my family and my close friends and relatives. And, yeah, therapy has changed a lot for me already. And I'm

you know, it's somewhat new into it. been in for about a year now. And yeah, I think as far as the industry goes, it's a very predatory industry, I think.

It's a hard industry to stay grounded in, especially with the social media stuff, especially with how hard it is to make a living and an income. I think like artist to artist stuff has been really good for me to like connect to other artists directly. I think I'm too new in the industry to be able to speak, you know, coherently on like what type of resources have been great for artists. But yeah, it's something that I hope there is an industry around being able to give artists mental health resources.

and resources to help. But I think artist communities are probably the most important thing for staying grounded in this career path.

Matt (30:26)
Yeah, yeah, I think that I would kind of agree there too. Like I'm like two -ish, two years into therapy and I still find the times that just like, talking to somebody who's kind of going through the same thing, but really are in the same spot. It really helps. It goes a long way for sure. So I guess kind of wrapping up too, man, I'm going to give you a spot to like, you got the album you're working on. You got, I think you got a tour coming up. Talk to us about what you got coming next and what to look for.

Vincent Lima (30:41)
Yeah.

Yeah, yeah crazy to say this but I'm doing a headline tour that's gonna hit kind of the large markets in the east coast a few more markets on the west coast and then Dublin and London we're gonna go over there or me I'm gonna go over there and yeah I'm gonna put out a new song I think in September and I'm gonna very

Cautiously roll out what I believe is my sort of debut album that will tell

A lot more of this story that I've been building about Orpheus and Eurydice and grief and love and growing up and fading. And yeah, there's nine more songs in that project that I haven't put out yet. So I'm excited for people to come on tour. know, that's the place that I think the connection is the deepest. And I'm excited for everyone to hear the rest of this album because there is some pretty deep cutting songs that I haven't put out yet that are going to be some tear -jerkers.

Matt (31:54)
Yeah.

Vincent Lima (31:57)
Yeah, we'll see.

Matt (31:59)
Yeah, yeah, man. I'm excited for you. And yeah, again, appreciate you taking the time talking a little bit here today.

Vincent Lima (32:05)
Yeah, thank you so much. This has been been really beautiful and I'm really happy that we connected. For the listeners that don't know also, if you've ever heard my song Somewhere, that's directly because of Matt and the posting that he did for that song. So I'm very grateful for all that he's done for me too.

Matt (32:11)
Yeah, me too,